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Protected groups

Throughout our lives we are members of all kinds of groups. Some of the groups we join, others we are cast into. Most of us like to see our group as being better than the other groups. We talk about how our group is better and how the other group needs to do this or that in order to "see the light". All of this is human nature.

Sometimes one group will decide that they have been too harsh on another group. They determine that by being so rough on the other group they have actually injured them. Because of the injuries to the other group there will be no more speaking ill of them. Anyone caught speaking ill of the other group will be punished. At some point, the protected group catches on and starts protesting any comments made by anyone that even mention their name in a bad light. Even truthful comments that mention them in a bad way are seen as being punishable. Anyone who mentions their name in a bad way is considerd to "hate" that group. The truth is swept aside as a means of protecting the group.

Be protecting the injured group, members of other groups are now injured. If the newly injured members of other groups complain, they are "haters". The "haters" may need to punished or at the very least, reducated.

What a crazy world we have built.

Comment balloon 19 commentsKevin Robinson • May 25 2008 10:00AM

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Which raises a question:

If a person wants to silence bigots, does that make that person a bigot? (or... which came first, the chicken or the egg?)

DEFINITION: A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own, and bigotry is the corresponding ideology.

Posted by Tim Fennell, Jacksonville Real Estate (The Legends of Real Estate, REALTORS®) over 9 years ago

Very good question. Hopefully others will chime in on this one.

Posted by Kevin Robinson, Fractional Developer over 9 years ago

Kevin:  You can't legislate LIKE.  You can't legislate TOLERANCE.  It's something that only time and new generations will heal...if we can let it lie.  Sad that you have to speak so veiled. 

Posted by Chris Ann Cleland, Associate Broker, Northern VA (Long and Foster REALTORS®, Gainesville, VA) over 9 years ago

What is funny to me is I am actually in a "protected group".  I am still not sure why I need protection. From what? From who?

Posted by Kevin Robinson, Fractional Developer over 9 years ago

Kevin, Whats sad is that the group that is fighting so hard for more rights chooses to gain them by silencing the rights of others.

Posted by Hugh Krone, Realtor, Sussex County NJ (Weichert Referral Associates) over 9 years ago

Yeas. Look at the first post on this blog.

Posted by Kevin Robinson, Fractional Developer over 9 years ago

I believe it was Groucho who said "I woudn't be a member of any club that would have me."

Yeah, most people voluntarily belong to one group or another because the feel it is better than the other groups, whether morally, business wise, socially, intellectually, whatever. And then, often, they start to make them believe that they are better than the other group(s). That it provides them a moral superiority over another.

I have seen groups on opposites sides here resort to name calling, attacking the person rather than the ideal. Who was it that said "We are all guilty and fall short....."

Posted by Mike Saunders (Lanier Partners) over 9 years ago

Tim & Susan - Very good question you ask and in my opinion, by definition the ones doing the silencing are bigoted.  They are bigoted against bigots and yes there is irony in that!  I would consider myself bigoted against bigots too (as would a number of others).  But the next question should be about what we find acceptable as a people:  most of us don't find bigotry acceptable so is an intolerance of bigotry, which is by definition a form of bigotry, something that we would find a negative trait?

 

 

Posted by Tchaka Owen (Galleria International Realty) over 9 years ago

Tchaka,

I wrote a long response but something went awry with my connection when I hit enter so it never made it here. I hate when that happens!

Basically, I was agreeing with you and added that one 'benefit' of not silencing bigoted comments/posts is that it enables us to know who to AVOID and who NOT to send referrals.  Bigoted people tend to harm themselves far more often than they harm the groups/individuals with whom they disagree.  (Unless, of course, they engage their bigotry in real life situations which actually suppress the rights of others.)

It's like the adage, "Better to have you think I'm ignorant than to open my mouth and remove all doubt."  LOL

Posted by Tim Fennell, Jacksonville Real Estate (The Legends of Real Estate, REALTORS®) over 9 years ago

I hate when a long response gets wiped out!!  I do agree with your 'added benefit', the last time I Googled my name I saw a number of posts from different sites that were right out in public.  It makes me think a bit more when I post now. 

Posted by Tchaka Owen (Galleria International Realty) over 9 years ago

Why would someone be concerned that the public might know what they think and feel?

Kathleen

Posted by Kate Elim, Realtor 540-226-1964, Selling Homes & Land a (Dockside Realty) over 9 years ago

I agree with Kathleen. I put it out there and if you don't agree with me, so what. We don't have to agree. IT's not the end of the world if we disagree. My life doesn't hinge on everyone agreeing with me or liking me. That goes for the public or anyone else.

Posted by Cheri Smith, Realtor Prudential Gary Greene (Prudential Gary Greene, Cypress TX) over 9 years ago

Kevin, what ARE you talking about!? What protected group do you belong to? The flag group...cause that's all I know about you, lol.

Posted by Cheri Smith, Realtor Prudential Gary Greene (Prudential Gary Greene, Cypress TX) over 9 years ago

Kathleen,

Here in Idaho my customers ( I am a custom homebuilder) want to know how I stand on certain isssues. This is a very conservative state with a lot of folks who move here from more liberal states. They really want to make sure I am a conservative.

Posted by Kevin Robinson, Fractional Developer over 9 years ago

as if that would make you a better home builder....lol.

Posted by Cheri Smith, Realtor Prudential Gary Greene (Prudential Gary Greene, Cypress TX) over 9 years ago

Cheri I think people that move here from say California are so mad at how the libs ran their stste into the ground that they truly do not want anything to do with one. Just so you will know, I am sure that a conservative can build a better home than a lib. Just like I am sure that conservative women are prettier than lib women.

 I better look out.

Posted by Kevin Robinson, Fractional Developer over 9 years ago

Kinda what I'm talking about here.  Let me know what you think. 

Posted by Jon Higgins, ABR (Century 21 Elite Performance) over 9 years ago

Cheri - hmmm... pssst... I think he's talking about racism.  So am I. 

Posted by Jon Higgins, ABR (Century 21 Elite Performance) over 9 years ago

Jon it was not just about racism. My point was that protected groups is a stupid idea. I am a member of a protected group, or two, and I do not need protection. It is telling a group that they need special help from the government.

Posted by Kevin Robinson, Fractional Developer over 9 years ago

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