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There is so much story telling on this board that it makes me wonder how ethical some on here are. I keep reading about people who say they can not get health insurance. Yeah right. More like they do not want to pay for it- either with cash or hard work.

My wife has been sick with a very expensive couple of illnesses for the last 15 years. We have been on both individual and group plans during that time period. We have paid out quite a bit over the years for her illness, but we have never taken any type of govt handout or charity. We never will.

There are numerous companies in this country that have excellent health insurance plans. Many of them only require you to work part time in order to get the benefits. Most do not have preexisting condition clause that will last more than the first year of employment. Even in this down economy, many are hiring right now.

Just like I wrote in my last blog, this country has a number of wimps in it. They like to tell us that we need the govt to help get medical insurance. What they are really saying is that they want someone else to pay for their medical so they do not have to pay for it or work for it. What happened to pride?

Comment balloon 11 commentsKevin Robinson • July 26 2009 09:21AM

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Sadly, I would add that I know many folks, real estate practitioners included who say that they can't "afford" health insurance, yet they pay several thousand each year on vacation and personal entertainment. 

Fact is, there is no shortage of health care in this country.  Even without health insurance, Americans and illegals can get health care. 

Posted by Lenn Harley, Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland (Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate) almost 10 years ago

Personal responsibility, picking yourself up by the boot straps and tackling "what you can do for your country" rather than the other way around is what's needed. More now than ever. When someone has over eaten, weighs 400 pounds, blames it on slow metabolism (because they now weight 400 pounds and can not exercise, move around, and are depressed with a poor self image) you gotta shake your head. They moan about how their joints hurt..you gotta wonder, if you locked the refrigerator and developed better impusle control, got mental health to curb the gluttony, many of the health problems would vanish. Back again to the personal responsibility. Some of the health problems are self inflicted, clog the system, drive the cost up and keep the really sick in need of attention delayed and told to take a number, have a seat.

Posted by Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573, Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker (MOOERS REALTY) almost 10 years ago

"From those that have, to those that need." ~ Joseph Stalin and Hussien Obama.

We are a country of wimps.

Posted by Terry Miller, Miller Homes Group and Tyler Apartment Locator (Miller Homes Group) almost 10 years ago

I agree with you about many people being wimps, but at the same time something needs to be done about the health insurance issue.  As long as the government, the insurance companies, and the American people expect that health insurance be tied to an employer or a union the problem will continue to perpetuate. 

My health insurance premiums for my family of 4 have doubled over the last 8 years and that is even after going from a $1000 deductible to a $2000 deductible.  Personally I can't handle them doubling again in another 8 years. 

Posted by Rob Arnold, Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F (Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc.) almost 10 years ago

I don't get it. Shouldn't you just provide me with whatever I want for free. I like insurance and free gormet food, and welfare checks.

If you are one of those who would disagree well then I will just have to point out how much you are hurting "the Children." And don't you try and educate them. I mean I want education- I just don't think that kids should have to feel stress over a test or really be challenged. They don't like it.

Kids should also be allowed to express themselves. If they damage your property you should be adult enough not to be offended and realize they are children growing up during a stressful time and be understanding. We do not want to damage their fragile self esteem.

So in short- Please just keep the checks coming. I enjoy them and if you are a poilitition then you inderstand that I do not like to work much, I like to eat well ,and spend the money I do have on what ever I want. You also understand that if I am not healthy because I have to provide my own insurance it will make it more difficult to enjoy the above and I would be forced to vote for someone who could uphold my way of life- well at least until the money runs out. Which won't be anytime soon because we own the printing presses and can make more!- Sincerly,Your Average American Voter

Posted by Dinah Lee Griffey, Managing Broker Windermere Peninsula Properties (Windermere Peninsula Properties) almost 10 years ago

Rob- You are one of the few that really need reform. Not the kind being proposed but one that gets to the root of it all. Dr. Insurance premiums for their practice. As long as people can sue for anything under the sun those premiums will be high and passed on to the consumer. This is still a business.

You should have a method to be compensated for gross negligence. I see adds on the TV every day for class action suits for prescription drugs. Nothing is perfect. We have to do our best. But if we sues over any and every issue we will never be able to afford health care. We can NEVER catch up.

When their is an issue with the care one received it should go to a review board of Dr's. & Citizens. They should determine what is fair and move on. It seems a lot of people see dollar signs when times are tough.-Dinah Lee

Posted by Dinah Lee Griffey, Managing Broker Windermere Peninsula Properties (Windermere Peninsula Properties) almost 10 years ago

Kevin, this is after all what the government is trying to create with their policies. 

Posted by Mark MacKenzie almost 10 years ago

Kevin,

Great honest post. The other challenge that I see is that many are looking at their own situation which is understandable, but not looking at exactly who is in charge and who is putting this government run Health-care plan together.

I know that some liberals here on AR admire folks like Margaret Sanger because they say she took back room abortions to the clinic. But we need to see what her real agenda is.

If you look at the people in charge of devising this health-care they have the same agenda.

It is not all about abortion and a woman's right to choose. It is about eliminating people Yes, human beings who cost to much or are to inconvenient. Bottom line.

Please people connect the dots and see who these people are and what they are up to. Using your money to do it!!

Please take the time to read. This is very important!!

America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, Whose Life Is Worth Improving or Protecting?

Then watch this clip-Ruth Badder Ginsburg said Abortion was to lessen the population of people that were undesirable...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sqzd4frqV4

Abortion, Eugenics and the Meaning of Margaret Sanger

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/22/ginsburgs-remark-stirs-an-old-debate-abortion-eugenics-and-th/2

 

 

 

Posted by Alice Linahan (Voices Empower ) almost 10 years ago

Alice: I think you are the only one on AR who is championing Margaret Sanger. I have never heard of her yet you randomly toss her name out in every healthcare thread. GUess it has something to do with your anti-choice position.

Dinah Lee: I see those commercials on tv too. They are ambulance chasers that do so much harm. The class-action scum attorneys are a big contributor to the high cost of insurance. I am sure there are some that are doing a good job, honestly, for those who have been injured (thinking Erin Brocovich).

Rob: You are the only person who, other than a few of us horrible liberals, seems to actually care about what happens to be a real healthcare crisis in the US. There are a number of agents in my office who have health coverage thru their spouses. There are some who pay out of pocket for insurance. There are some with no coverage at all. They aren't lazy, freeloaders, weak or any of the other adjectives that the right tosses out. For some people, $500 a month for single coverage is very expensive. The insurance industry runs health care in this country.

Alice and Terry: You represent the worst of Texas. Thank you. Your racist comment directed towards Obama, Terry, screams desperation.Why can't you add something positive to the discussion.

Texas ranks just about LAST in health coverage in the country, has substandard care in general, has more unwed single mothers than just about any other state. Your state is a terrible drain on the rest of the country. Have you all seceded yet? The rest of us are waiting.

 

Posted by Scott Smith, Gloucester & Rockport, Massachusetts (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage) almost 10 years ago

Kevin: You are right in your post. There are a number of places where one can work where benefits are excellent. Hotels are a good place to start. If I didn't have health insurance, I would probably end up taking a second job just for the benefits!

What I do see as the challenge are the folks who use emergency rooms because they don't have a priamry care doctor....and don't have coverage. If therer was a relatively inexpensive plan that they could get for routine care, then maybe they would not need to go to the ER when a cold turns into pneumonia. For some, the cyle of "not having" just becomes "what is." The cycle needs to be broken. Education is the key. BUt that is for another thread. Thanks for your post. It is a good place to start an honest discussion.

Posted by Scott Smith, Gloucester & Rockport, Massachusetts (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage) almost 10 years ago

Lynn

You make an excellent point about agents who "play" with their money instead of paying their money for those things they really need and especially in these trying  times.

I know so many that go to Vegas, New Orleans, and other expensive weekend jaunts on a regular basis and then complain about necessary bills or the fact that they have no insurance.

Posted by Trey Thurmond, College Station , Texas Homes (BCR Realtors) almost 10 years ago

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