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I have never felt like such a rule breaker as I do on AR. I am big believer in not breaking the rules. Ask anyone who knows me and they will tell you. My kids know that Dad will always follow the rules. On AR though, apparently I need to read the rules.

And therin lies the problem. I have never been able to find a clear cut set of rules. If they are on here somewhere, will someone please point me towards them?

For the last few weeks I have been making a big push to move up the old Idaho rankings. I have been busy writing blogs, commenting on others blogs, and reblogging others blogs. Oops. Don't want to do that.

I, in my foolish ways, was reblogging other peoples stuff. I did it to get myself points as well as to get the writer some points. I was reblogging good articles that I agreed with and that I thought would look nice on my site. Obviously I did not want to put something on my site that would turn my customers or colleagues away. Everytime that I reblogged I got 25 points. Many of the articles were ones that held a link within to the original writers other site.

While I do know that we can only do 10 blogs a week for pioints, and 10 comments a day for points, I have never seen a limit on reblogs. It looked like a great way to pick up some extra points. Not! 3 days ago I was tagged with a very nice bonus from the AR gurus. A 10,000 point fine. Holy moly. I looked at my points summary and found that I have only recieved about 6,500 points from reblogging. A pretty heavy fine.

So now back to my questions. Where are the rules? If AR does not want us to "exploit" reblogging for points, as they put it, why do they award points for a reblog?

Comment balloon 13 commentsKevin Robinson • April 03 2009 10:10AM

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Kevin:  If you received a 10,000 point fine from the Active Rain folks... I can probably guess why.  In my opinion, you are putting much too much effort in trying to "game the system."  The "points rules" have been put in place to encourage honest and worthwhile activity... not to help folks who only want to pile on the points.  And... if you have been working as hard as you say you have in gaming the system... then it appears that your hefty fine is right on target.

Active Rain is all about personal relationships with others.  Now, that takes time.  It is obvious you have taken your re-blogging efforts to an extreme.  It's also obvious that AR didn't like it.  My suggestion:  either play by the rules... or find a new game that fits you better.  Now, this is not a nasty suggestion... it's just reality.  Have a great Friday.  Take care...

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

One good way to check on whether your blogging efforts are proving worthwhile... is by checking on the number of comments you get on each post.  I notice you submitted 303 posts in March.  Go to the Archives link, and click on March 2009.  Then... scroll down, as I just did, and look at the number of comments for each of your posts.  The great majority of them have zero comments.  Honestly, Kevin, this should tell you something.

Although each of us on Active Rain blogs for our own reasons... many of them different... it appears that with all of your "zero-comment" posts... that even with all of the effort you have put forth... you are still fairly invisible to those who you are trying to attract.  This... is not a winning game-plan.  Again... take care... and best of luck with your business...

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

Karen,

Thanks for the feedback. I agree with you in a lot of ways. I blog to let people know about me and what I stand for. I have picked up numerous customers that read my blog and said "I want to work with you because of what you say and stand for." Maybe I am missing the boat on how to get more comments.

I still ask, where are the rules written? How do I know if I am "gaming" the sytem? What if I thought I was following the rules? What rule did I break?

Posted by Kevin Robinson, Fractional Developer over 10 years ago

I have honestly seen no rules that I can think of in the realm of reblogging. I have seen a hand full of people here that do such a thing quite often, and I was unaware of any problems that could arise from it. I know that you have reblogged a few of my posts, and I was happy about it, it showed that you agreed with what I had to say and that you thought it was well done, so thank you.

I am sorry to hear that you were hit with a fine. Maybe they felt like you were reblogging too many and not writing enough original content, but in all honesty I have no idea why they did such a thing in this case. As I said I really don't know the rules of reblogging and I myself rarely if ever do so. Have you attempted to contact one of the community builders to see if they can clarify what the exact reason for the points removal was? I'm sure you have, but maybe they could tell you exactly what went wrong and where some rules for reblogging are.

Posted by JL Boney, III, Columbia, SC Real Estate (Coldwell Banker) over 10 years ago

Kevin,

I am sorry to hear about this.

I personally have not seen any limitations on points for reblogging - something tells me that this will probably change soon.

Posted by Mark MacKenzie over 10 years ago

Mark- That is kind of my point. I have not seen any imitations on reblogging. I thought that I was helping myself while helping others.

Posted by Kevin Robinson, Fractional Developer over 10 years ago

Kevin:  Honestly, if you have picked up some good clients because of your re-blogging... that is just great.  I simply think that, although I have not seen any rule as far as the number of re-blogs allowed... I am guessing that AR just thought that your 303 posts for March... of which I am assuming many were re-blogs... that it was "excessive."

But, once again... I would gladly trade 10,000 points for a few extra closings.  Take care...

Posted by Karen Anne Stone, Fort Worth Real Estate (New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County) over 10 years ago

Karen,

You just did a great job of making my point. AR "thought" it was excessive. I am still trying to find the rules on here.

Posted by Kevin Robinson, Fractional Developer over 10 years ago

Kevin, I'm sorry that you were hit with a fine.  Somehow it doesn't seem right since you didn't know there was a rule and still can't find it.  Maybe someone will comment here and let us all know where the rules are. 

Posted by Marchel Peterson, Spring TX Real Estate E-Pro (Results Realty) over 10 years ago

Kevin,

Sorry to hear thta. I actually do not know the rules. I assume that they whould be certain way, but I did not  ever read anyting to that extent.

i lost a lot of points at one time on photos. I was sure that they want more photos, but turned out it  was not the same.

Posted by Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL, Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices (Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408) over 10 years ago

I am not sure of the 'rules' either but it seems to me that it is more about "mores" than  rules since it is Social  Media after all. I am new to this and looking to find ways of getting people to just see and read what I have to say. The business that can be generated from such effort will follow if people care about what you are saying. I welcome any suggestions. Thank you!

Posted by Vito Simone (203k Services) over 10 years ago

Kevin,

At the bottom of every page on Activerain is a direct link to the community guidelines.  One of those guidelines says:

  • The point system is intended to recognize the top professionals in our industry. Do not try to game the system. Points for blogging will only be awarded for majority original content.

If your are just posting reblogs over and over for points you are breaking this rules two ways.  one, you are gaming the system for points, and you are not posting majority of original content.  I hope this makes more sense.

 

Posted by Jeremy Blanton, Myrtle Beach REALTORĀ®- myrtlebeachhomesblog.com (Myrtle Beach Homes Blog) over 10 years ago

Jeremy, thank you. I was going to point him to the link but you beat me to it. :-)

Kevin, the ratio appears to be what flagged your activity and brought it to the host's attention. Seems you may have passed the 51/49 divide regarding the majority of your activities in a particular time frame. Thank you for bringing his to our attention. I found myself reviewing my own posts and was happy to realize that although I don't use it a lot I do like to share interesting stuff I find.

There was one time that I actually did ten in a short period of time, but never grouped them so closely like that ever again.  They were stellar writers and banged out some great work. I'm going to go visit your blog and see what you've been up to. If you are not getting comments maybe some of us can help. Go join Club Chaos. We talk about everything over there. I serial comment there a lot. Seems you could use a few chatty friends to get the conversation started on your blog. I have a few mentors there who have helped me improve my writing. Maybe we can make a few suggestions to help you. :-)

Posted by C Tann-Starr (Tann Starr & Associates, Inc.) over 10 years ago

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